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    I will be in Vegas for the WSOP from 6/1 - 6/17. I have gone every year for the last 4 years. Now when I say I go for the WSOP, I go for the WSOP meta, i.e, all of the other tourneys. Most of the WSOP is outside of my bankroll and skill level.

    I am comfortable at buy-ins of $600 or less. So I am trying to figure out which tourneys are the best value for me. I personally think I should:

    1) Hit a few Planet Hollywood events
    2) Some at the Golden Nugget look good.
    3) I usually play one or two of the Aria dailys.
    4) I have played and cashed the Daily Deepstacks at WSOP but they really are a crap shoot IMHO
    5) I am considering the Colossus. But I hear nothing but bad reviews. I don't want to feel like I threw away money on a joke just so I could play a bracelet event.
    6) Really thinking I should try some Sattys to jump up into bigger buy ins.

    I really need some tourney advice here. I am looking for the best structures possible for my buy in range. I also would like to focus on the usual: softer fields (which is likely all of them at my buyin range) and guarantees.

    Looking to play 10 tourneys or so while I am there. There are just so many options that it is tilting.


  • #2
    If you go to Cardplayer.com and pull up tournaments, it will show you all of the series going on. The Venetian Deepstacks offer good guarantees with a decent amount of play compared to wsop.

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    • #3
      If you are looking for a non-WSOP approach during that time frame, and at that price range I would keep an eye on the Wynn Summer Classic, Venetian Deepstack Extravaganza III, Planet Hollywood Phamous Series and the Golden Nugget Grand Poker Series.

      The schedule is out for most of these, however the structure sheets are not. So it is hard to compare/contrast, etc.

      Many of the daily's have fast moving structures so make sure you compare the buy in + rake along with the structures to find out if it is a good fit for you.

      I like to make an excel spreadsheet of the days I will be there + what tournaments will be going on when I am there. I list the buy in + rake, how many days they run, and what the structure is like. I can then compare and contrast the tournaments to decide which is the best fit for me. I also always have a backup plan - so if I bust early, I am not scrabbling for the next tournament, etc.
      Last edited by JredA; 04-12-2017, 03:26 PM.

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      • #4
        I have done well in the Venetian tournaments over the past few years
        What makes the WSOP daily deepstacks "crap shoots?" If it's a lot of bad players making terrible plays, that should be a good thing.
        If it's bad structure that's something else
        I'm going to be there July 8th through 14th. If i build a bankroll by then (currently sitting on 4k) I'll play the main event. otherwise I was planning on the dailys since I'll be staying at the Rio anyway.
        I might try a sat for the last day 1 of the main event.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HUK View Post
          I have done well in the Venetian tournaments over the past few years
          What makes the WSOP daily deepstacks "crap shoots?" If it's a lot of bad players making terrible plays, that should be a good thing.
          If it's bad structure that's something else
          I'm going to be there July 8th through 14th. If i build a bankroll by then (currently sitting on 4k) I'll play the main event. otherwise I was planning on the dailys since I'll be staying at the Rio anyway.
          I might try a sat for the last day 1 of the main event.
          In my opinion the structures in the WSOP deepstacks are pretty poor and they tend to rake pretty high. They move very fast.

          I am playing in a few Wynn Summer Classic Series events.

          Here is an example...Using last years WSOP deepstack structure sheets compared to this years Wynn Summer Classic series.

          A WSOP $235 Buy-In = 15k stack + 30 min blind levels. It has a 19.1% rake (not including the % of the prize pool withdrawn for staffing which I think is 3%).

          Level 6 = 300/600 + 75
          Level 10 = 1000/2000 + 300
          Level 18 = 15k/30k + 4000

          The Wynn Daily $100k Guarantee $550 Buy-In = 15k stack + 30 min blind levels. It has a 9.1% rake (not including the % of the prize pool withdrawn for staffing which I think is 4%)

          Level 6 = 200/400 + 50
          Level 10 = 500/1000 + 100
          Level 18 = 3000/6000 + 1000

          I don't mean to speak for JinnRex, but all you have to look at is the difference in the structure at level 18. The WSOP events are almost 5x as much as the Wynn. So you have people very short stacked and forced to play push/fold, which is pretty much a flipping contest.

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          • #6
            thanks for that info... I will definitely check out the Wynn tourneys. I much prefer the longer formats, even though Jonathan says that amateurs should play the shallower events

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            • #7
              WSOP rakes for smaller tournaments ($1k and below) are brutal. Guess you're paying for the privilege . . . .

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              • #8
                Thoughts on the Colossus?

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                • #9
                  Or Crazy Eight?

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                  • #10
                    Here is a list of most of the tournaments in Vegas this summer:
                    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8f949eiqi7...2017.xlsx?dl=0

                    I am not sure about structures, but I imagine most of them are fine at the major casinos. Also, amateurs can play whichever events they want, but shallow stacks lead to a simpler game, causing fewer errors. Good luck!

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